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Before You Begin

Table of contents

Table of contents
  1. Page Files
    1. Wildlander and Antiviruses
    2. Bitdefender
      1. It does not like Wabbajack’s Downgrading routine and can cause corruption, preventing the game to launch.
      2. It causes crashes to desktop while saving.
    3. Webroot
    4. McAfee Antivirus.
    5. Norton
    6. Avast
    7. What do the Dropdowns mean
      1. Modlist Drop down
      2. Quality Drop down
      3. Shaders Drop down
  2. Suggestions for various GFX cards

You should not be starting Skyrim from steam, you should not be running SKSE, you should not be running mod organizer. Instead, you should be using our dedicated launcher which allows you to customize the Screen resolution, Graphics settings and ENB shaders.

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Page Files

Bigger Skyrim modlists need a lot of memory, and when there is not enough available it may fail allocating more causing a crash, or when running low cause Stutters. To fix this, you’ll want to have a bigger page file.

A pagefile is a file on your disk Windows will use when there is not enough memory available.

Never disable the pagefile - this may lead to various issues on your system, such as this Skyrim crash.

If you’ve never touched the pagefile, try performing the following steps:

  1. Press Windows + R on your keyboard and enter sysdm.cpl ,3
  2. Under the Performance section, press ‘Settings’
  3. Go to the Advanced tab at the top, and at the Virtual memory section press ‘Change…’
  4. Disable ‘Automatically manage paging file size for all drives’
  5. If you have more than one drive, try enabling it for at least one more drive as a backup (make sure it has a decent bit of free space, like 15GB). Set the size to ‘System managed size’. Otherwise, set a custom size for the drive it’s currently on and increase the maximum size to be at least 20GB (Minimum size can be set as your current usage).

The Pagefile is different to System Ram.

The Pagefile is often used for spill over for the GPU VRAM (as GPU’s don’t have DMA - they can’t use System ram as a overflow) and it is also used like a staging area for assets from disk. Having 32/64 GB of System ram does not mean that you may not experience page file related issues.

Wildlander and Antiviruses

Several Anti-virus programs are known to cause issues with launching list, Some cause issues with Wabbajack itself, others with running the list once installed.

If you are experiencing problems running Wabbajack such as the exe being deleted or no progress during the installation phase, try adding your Wabbajack folder (where the executable is located) and your selected modlist installation location to exclusions in your anti-virus of choice. Find out how to via this google search and look for your antivirus in the results

If your 3rd party anti-virus has expired its license and you don’t plan on renewing it - UNINSTALL IT! Outdated, expired anti viruses account for 70% of the anti-virus support related issues we see.

If you’re using a 3rd party anti-virus (such as AVG, Avast, BitDefender, Webroot, Kaspersky, Norton, McAfee etc.) it’s likely that adding the folders to exclusions will not be enough and you may need to disable or uninstall your 3rd party AV during installation as they can incorrectly mark files like usvfs_proxy_x86.exe (required for MO2), The launcher or SKSE itself as a virus - OR even worse prevent/corrupt the wabbajack installation to cause it to crash on startup - even if wabbajack says installation is complete.

We recommend doing so anyway as Windows Defender is likely much better at stopping threats, according to data from av-test.org .

For Specific issues with individual Anti-virus software, Please see below.

Bitdefender

It does not like Wabbajack’s Downgrading routine and can cause corruption, preventing the game to launch.

  1. Disable Bitdefender
  2. Delete game-files\Stock game
  3. Reinstall Wildlander from Wabbajack, choosing Overwrite installation and wait for install to complete.
  4. you should now be able to launch.

It causes crashes to desktop while saving.

Recommendations: Disable Bitdefender during Wabbajack install. Apply the following fixes after install to prevent crash on save

  1. Easy solution - Turn off Advance Threat Defense when playing Wildlander

Or

  1. proper Solutions - Add a ADT exception for Wildlander\game-files\Stock Game\SkyrimSE.exe
  2. If you also have “Ransom-ware Remediation” on Add Wildlander\game-files\ModOrganizer.exe

Webroot

Webroot Anti-virus is completely incompatible with the Crash logging mod we use in the pack. It will cause a crash on Startup.

To play, you need to shut down the anti-virus completely from the system tray.

There are no options you can tick, and no exclusions you can apply to make this anti-virus play nice.

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McAfee Antivirus.

It is known to cause a corruption in the Skyrim downgrade during installation process from Wabbajack - even when the anti-virus has finished its subscription. If it’s still installed (even expired) it can and DOES cause issues.

  1. Disable McAfee (if its expired, just uninstall the thing)
  2. Delete game-files\Stock game
  3. Reinstall Wildlander from Wabbajack, choosing Overwrite installation and wait for install to complete.
  4. you should now be able to launch.

Norton

If using Norton, and it blocks the launcher for intrusive activity (During start up - while it’s checking for updates) you may want to configure these settings to exclude a URL or domain from monitoring URL: https://github.com/Wildlander-mod/Launcher/releases. Please note - Support are not able to assist you in how to apply these settings - we don’t have Norton installed.

If you are still unable to run after performing these steps, then unfortunately - you will be unable to use the launcher unless you uninstall Norton. Your only method of playing Wildlander would be to use Mod organizer to launch and manually install the ENB in the stock game folder.


Avast

Is known to flag launcher as a false positive for spy-ware. Our launcher is open source, you can check for yourself that it is free of spy-ware. As Avast is known to be Spy-ware in its own right and sensible people un-installed this years ago. Even stock windows offers better protection, without selling your Internet browsing history to the highest bidder. Source

Should you wish to keep using Avast.

  1. Disable Avast
  2. Delete game-files\Stock game
  3. Reinstall Wildlander from Wabbajack, choosing Overwrite installation and wait for install to complete.
  4. you should now be able to launch using the launcher.
  5. Shutdown Avast running whenever you want to play

What do the Dropdowns mean

Modlist Drop down

  • Standard- Everything on.
  • Performance - All graphics mods turned off.

Quality Drop down

These are your standard Skyrim parameters. The Graphics dropdown determines the quality of basic graphical elements, such as the draw distance of grass and shadows, the number of effects visible at once, and the quality of distant objects. These elements use a mix of CPU and GPU.

  • Ultra - Everything on, All the bells and whistles - For “beast” PC’s
  • High - Reduced Draw distances compared to Ultra, but still the full mod package.
  • Medium - Reduced Draw distances compared to High, but still the full mod package.
  • Low - No grass, no shadows, but still the full mod package.
  • Potato - Stripped down graphics for PC’s which were built when oldrim was first released.

Shaders Drop down

These control the level of ENB Shaders being applied. The Shaders’ dropdown determines the quality of post-processing effects, such as environment lighting, particle lighting, ambient occlusion, sun rays, and water effects. These elements are very heavy on the GPU.

  • Ultra - Default Zangdar’s ENB Everything on, All the bells and whistles plus grass collision
  • High - Default Zangdar’s ENB Everything on, All the bells and whistles
  • Low - Zangdar ENB Performance preset
  • No ENB - Run without shaders at all

Suggestions for various GFX cards

Card Graphics Shaders Comments
GTX 9 series equivalent or worse Potato/Low None Depending on Ram and CPU Can push this to a Medium graphics.
GTX 10 series up to GTX 1060 or equivalent Medium None Depending on generation, RAM and CPU, can push this to a high graphics
GTX 10 series from GTX 1070 or equivalent High None Depending on generation, RAM and CPU, can push this to a low shaders
RTX 20 series from RTX 2070 or equivalent High High Depending on generation, RAM and CPU, can push this to ultra graphics
RTX 30 series up to RTX 3060 or equivalent Ultra High Depending on generation, RAM and CPU, can push this to ultra shaders
RTX 3060 or better Any Any Knock yourself out with whatever takes your fancy